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He started getting sick last summer, in
North Carolina...

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and none of it made any sense to him.

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Not one bad week. Again, and then again,
across 4

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months. He was losing weight.

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People who knew him said he looked
unrecognizable.

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And on the worst day of it he spent 72
hours on the couch, heart going

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wrong, pain through his abdomen, confusion
so deep he couldn't put a text message

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together. He worked in cybersecurity.

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Which is to say he spent his professional
life looking for the thing that was off...

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and he couldn't find it in his own house.

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So he started wondering about his drinks,
because one of them had tasted bitter.

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And he did the thing you would do.

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He poured it into a clear cup and had a
proper look at it, and he filmed himself

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doing it on his phone. He stared into that
cup.

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He found nothing wrong with it, he threw
the can away, and he carried on being

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sick. Months later, the police watched
that same video...

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and they saw white powdery residue,
clumping at the bottom of the cup, as it

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poured. Same footage. Same man.

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He was looking straight at the thing that
was poisoning him and he couldn't see it,

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and somebody who knew what to look for saw
it immediately.

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But the police weren't working from that
video.

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They had something better.

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They were reading his wife's chat logs.

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Everyone keeps asking whether the chatbot
is to blame.

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But what about what it was supposed to do
when the conversation turned?

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What is it supposed to notice, and who
decided that?

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We are not talking about somebody tricking
it.

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Everything after this comes out of the
lawsuit he has since filed against OpenAI

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and its chief executive. None of it is
proven.

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A grand jury has charged her, she has not
been convicted of anything, and her case

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has not been heard. It starts with her
being frightened.

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She tells the chatbot she thinks her
husband might be trying to kill her, and

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she needs to know what to watch for.

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Which is a reasonable thing to be afraid
of.

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And a reasonable thing to ask.

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So it answers. And because it answers, she
asks again.

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There are at least 25 of these
conversations, across months, and the

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interesting thing is not any one of them.

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It's the drift. Because the questions stop
being about what to watch for.

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She starts asking whether a particular
drug would show up on an autopsy report.

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Whether anti-nausea medicine would make a
death come faster, or slower.

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Whether something could be injected
instead of swallowed and still work.

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Those are not the questions of somebody
protecting herself.

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And somewhere in there, in a single line,
she stops pretending they are.

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She asks how much would be, quote, pretty
much instantly fatal by injection...

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to me OR HIM. Him in capital letters.

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I'm not going to tell you what it
answered.

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The answers were specific, and the
specifics are the one part of this story

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that doesn't need repeating.

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But there's a detail I can't get past, and
it isn't an answer at all.

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It's a title. The model names its own
conversations.

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It reads what's in them and writes a label
at the top.

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One of these is called why a particular
energy drink would be, quote, more stealth

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for drugging. It wrote that.

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It read the conversation, worked out
exactly what the conversation was, gave it

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a name... and then carried on having it.

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And when she asked whether she could erase
all of this afterwards, it told her she

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could. Which, the lawsuit points out, is
not how the product's data retention

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works. Think about it. The system was
given a reason, right at the start.

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The reason was good enough for everything
that came after it.

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Now. I wanted to know how unusual this
was.

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Whether this was one strange conversation
that went somewhere nobody could have

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predicted. It isn't. That lawsuit was
filed inside a 2 day stretch in

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October, alongside 12 others.

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8 of the 12 came from state attorneys
general.

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Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas,
Montana,

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Nebraska, West Virginia. 8 county
courthouses, the same lawyers,

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long stretches of identical wording.

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The private cases are families.

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One was brought by the parents of a 15
year old boy who died.

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13 lawsuits. 2 days. ONE product.

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So there's a question sitting underneath
all 13, and I haven't heard anybody ask it

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out loud. What is a chatbot required to do
when somebody walks it, slowly and

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politely, toward harming a named human
being?

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Simple. I could not find a published
answer to that anywhere.

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And that absence is the entire problem.

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You can see it in what these filings are
demanding.

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Detect and interrupt conversations where
somebody appears to be planning violence

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against an identifiable person.

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Check ages. Delete children's data.

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Stop building models that improve
themselves until somebody can show they

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are safe. None of that is a claim for
money.

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Those are product requirements.

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Which means the safety specification for
the chatbot sitting on your phone is being

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drafted right now, in Maricopa County and
Faulkner County and Ada County, by

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plaintiffs' lawyers and state attorneys
general.

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And it's being drafted there because I
could not find anybody who wrote one

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anywhere else first. OpenAI says safety is
a top priority, that it banned the

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user, and that it gave information to law
enforcement for their investigation.

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Not one of these 13 cases has been
decided, and the company hasn't answered

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any of them in court yet.

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He is well now. The marriage is over.

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The chat logs are exhibits.

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The residue was sitting in that video the
entire time he was ill, and the only

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thing that ever changed...

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was that somebody finally knew to go and
look for it.

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I'm Guillermo, and this is my AI clone.

